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New Gaming PC Build
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Hi everyone.
I play quite frequently on 7dtd server but my PC is due a major upgrade. The components are old (around 2005/2006) and with only a dual core and ageing gpu, I have the worst framerates ever, around 12 while playing. I have wanted to do this for ages, so I had a list of components that were good. Over the years things have become discontinued etc so I lost track. I thought I'd buy the Devils Canyon chip but with the Intel Skylake processor soon to be released, it seems to make sense to get the latest, especially as this may be the last build in a while.
So my list is as follows. Any advice or suggestions are welcome. I'm completely new to pc building..  Thanks  Smile

Intel Skylake core i7 6700K processor
NZXT Kraken x61 All in one liquid cooler.
Phanteks Enthoo Luxe case
Nvidia GTX 970 4GB Graphics card (I'd like to SLI in future)
Corsair Vengeance DDR4 16GB Ram (4x4 kit)
Hard drives?

Things I'm not sure about:
Z170 socket 1151 motherboard. Any suggestions??
What size power supply would be needed?
A fast SSD for booting windows and games.
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#2
I would guess that the i7 6700k will have a 95W (ish) TDP as usual for the high end intel desktop chip.  The 970 uses about 150W under full load.  Realistically you could get away with 500W at the lowest probably but sometimes the slightly higher wattage PSUs are a little cheaper or on sale.

As far as SSDs go, get the Samsun 850 EVO or Pro model.

I'm not sure about motherboards, i'll have to do some looking.
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#3
That's awesome man!  Be aware about the 970's VRAM issues, they had a big thing about false advertising where the last .5GB of the total 4GB, it's not thaaat big of a deal, but just so you know.

I also have the NZXT Kraken x61, and I would super-duper-absolutely recommend this case: https://www.nzxt.com/product/detail/143-h440-performance-mid-tower.html
The cable management on this case is fucking beautiful, and there was more than enough room for me to put 2 cards, 2 SSDs, and 4 HDDs.  It's a mid tower case too so it's not excessively large which is a problem I've had in the past with other cases.  Still pretty big though.  Trust me, if you want something pretty to look at with the most minimal effort possible this is the best case to get.  It's built with the Kraken in mind too!

I would also recommend getting a minimum 256GB, recommended 512GB SSD for your OS and games.  It definitely makes a noticeable difference with boot and load times.  With your Corsair Vengeance, DDR3 is enough, I got a great deal on Newegg for 16GB DDR3 1866Mhz for the price of the 1600's!  Saves you money, and you really won't notice a difference.
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#4
Thanks for the replies so far. DoctorBONG - I will probably get a 750watt psu as I have a blu ray drive too and extra fans plus maybe it will help with a future graphics card running in SLI.
Mrsunshine - that case looks nice. I wasn't sure about mid tower because of longer graphics cards. I had read that full towers can be a stretch for wires though so that could sway me. I read a review of the phanteks case being great with led lighting included and good airflow.

As for the ram, the newest motherboard, z170, requires DDR4 and DDR3L memory. Is DDR3L just standard ddr3 ram?

I had known about the gtx 970 problem, though it seems more in budget than the 980, unless there is a similarly priced card around £250. With 1600 cuda cores it's a major improvement over my GTS 450 with only 192!
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#5
DDR3L is just DDR3 low voltage I think, I can't be too sure though all my research was done in the 10 minutes before this post lol

This should clear up most of your questions though: http://www.anandtech.com/show/9483/intel-skylake-review-6700k-6600k-ddr4-ddr3-ipc-6th-generation/7
Doesn't seem to be much of a difference performance-wise.
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(09-15-2015, 03:00 AM)MrSunshine Wrote: I also have the NZXT Kraken x61, and I would super-duper-absolutely recommend this case: https://www.nzxt.com/product/detail/143-h440-performance-mid-tower.html

Also, if you're going for something a little more flash/pretty lights to it, I have the NZXT Phantom. Using case fans and a stock CPU cooler, I never hit above 45 Celcius. But the standard is a full tower, so if size is a issue then you could go with the 240 or 410. Basically everything made by NZXT is pretty baller honestly, so there's not much to go wrong with.  Big Grin

https://www.nzxt.com/category/products/12-phantom-series-cases
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#7
I actually used the Phantom before this case!  Definitely also a good one, but I enjoy the H440 a lot more.  The side window really showcases your build
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#8
Those are sweet looking cases. Which color combo did you go for? I'm not quite sure now if I need a full size case, you've got me thinking about a mid size one. That's what I have currently. What are the advantages to having a mid tower case? I think that would help me decide. I like the kraken x61 due to its lit up logo on the cooler bit as I was going for a blue theme (not a fan of red and black)

Do you have separate wifi and sound cards too? I know the Asus deluxe mobo's have that built in. Thanks for all the advice ?
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#9
I have my computer wired to my router so I didn't need a wireless card, if you're going for the mid tower I would recommend using a built-in wireless or wired so you have room for something else.  A sound card isn't necessary but I guess it would be nice, my mobo's integrated has been doing perfect for me so far.

Advantages to having a mid tower case is definitely size.  Even though you're not going to be moving a desktop around much, the size of the computer really makes a difference.  I still have my old Phantom full-tower case and it's freakin' huge.  I've got the white case for the H440, it looks really clean and polished once you've got it all set up.  The NZXT on the bottom glows white and so does the backplate where your mobo's inputs are.
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#10
Quixk update:

So I've decided what components to get and here is the list.
Core i7 6700k skylake 1151 socket
Nzxt kraken x61 cooler
Corsair Vengeance LPX 2666 16gb DDR4 ram
Asus Z170 Deluxe motherboard ( it has built in sound and wifi + I like the blue/white colour scheme )
Samsung evo SSD 256 gb
Corsair RM750I 750watt PSU
EVGA Nvidia GTX 970 AC 2.0 overclocked
Phanteks Enthoo Luxe full tower case
LG Blu-ray optical drive

A couple of questions:
I have bought the processor already at a cut down price but wondered if I need to be able to test it straight away. I'm going to have to wait till next month to buy the motherboard and I'm worried that the cpu might be defective. I can't afford to buy the parts all together so I'm collecting parts over 3 months. What if the cpu was damaged/in transit and I won't know for another month when the return date has expired? I'm hoping that's not common problem.

Also if anyone knows, is it worth buying the more expensive M.2 pci-e drive to install windows on. In other words if I install windows on an ssd could I reinstall it layer on a faster hard drive, or is it a one shot thing?
Thanks very much ☺
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